Web 2.0 Meets the Cloud

Many have asked, “What’s the difference between Web 2.0 and the Cloud?”  Tim O’Reilly, credited with the Web 2.0, wrote about the difference in his O’Reilly Radar blog back in 2008. http://radar.oreilly.com/2008/10/web-20-and-cloud-computing.html   He defined the types of cloud computer and I like number 3 on his list,

Cloud-based end-user applications.  Any web application is a cloud application in the sense that it resides in the cloud.  Google, Amazon, Facebook, twitter,  flickr, and virtually every other Web 2.0 application is a cloud application in this sense. However, it seems to me that people use the term “cloud” more specifically in describing web applications that were formerly delivered locally on a PC, like spreadsheets, word processing, databases, and even email.  Thus even though they may reside on the same server farm, people tend to think of gmail or Google docs and spreadsheets as “cloud applications” in a way that they don’t think of Google search or Google maps.

This common usage points up a meaningful difference:  people tend to think differently about cloud applications when they host individual user data.  The prospect of “my” data disappearing or being unavailable is far more alarming than, for example, the disappearance of a service that merely hosts an aggregated view of data that is available elsewhere (say Yahoo! search or Microsoft live maps.)  And that, of course, points us squarely back into the center of the Web 2.0 proposition:  that users add value to the application by their use of it.  Take that away, and you’re a step back in the direction of commodity computing.  (O’Reilly, October 2008)

That was 2008.  What is the difference between Web 2.0 and the Cloud in 2013?  I have my opinion, but what’s yours?  Is it important to know the difference or care?

Nancy Wozniak, Learning Architect and ePortfolio Program Manager Stony Brook University

3 thoughts on “Web 2.0 Meets the Cloud

  1. I always enjoy replying to my own posts. It’s the cyber way of talking to yourself. The transition from Web 2.o to the Cloud has fascinated me. It’s not so much the technology as it is the buzz words and the exchanges in higher education committee meetings. I use a blog, is it Web 2.o or Cloud? My eportfolio at https://digication.stonybrook.edu/nancywozniak. Is it in the Cloud? It’s a third party platform for Stony Brook that is sitting on a server that is part of Digication’s farm in Palo Alto.

    In an educational technology committee meeting, I was asked, by a person that always enjoys making an impression with technical questions that fly over the heads of the rest, “Is Digication cloud?” I noticed the puzzled looks in the room. Cloud? I replied that Digication is third party and we need to focus on the learning process, not the tool. He replied, “It’s important to know if this is Web 2.o or Cloud. if it’s not Cloud, we should be using Google Sites.” Huh? The room grew silent. I knew my presentation on the use of eportfolios to promote integrative and lifelong learning was dead. The committee members were lost in confusion and so was the learning. ePortfolios were labeled a technology to be feared. John Dewey rolled over in his grave.

    So Tim O’Reilly, what do we call blogs, wikis, eportfolios, and such not hosted on our own networks, Web 2.0 or Cloud? We’d like to get on with the learning and out of committee meetings with know-it-alls that know nothing about the architecture of technology.

    However, I am curious. I found this presentation on the architecture of cloud computing. Thank you, ProfEdge. I see how cloud computing facilitates learning and the scaffolding of knowledge through added storage and smarter interactive activities.

    Introduction to Cloud Computing
    by ProfEdge Solutions Pvt Ltd on Jul 06, 2013


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